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« on: March 03, 2010, 11:56:05 PM »

What lesson is to be learned from many repeated occurrences of dessertion by those you love and by those that supposedly love you?
Yea they might keep in touch once every blue moon but they always end up just out of reach or just plain gone.
And it's not like the relationships end foul. Mostly everything is really amazing for both parties from what is observed.

I just wonder if you just can't hold on to things that don't last forever or you don't deserve the relationship or what?

Also what is the healthiest, sanest, bestest way to heal from a broken shattered or just heavy and swollen heart due to longing and lonliness and feeling like your love is just out of reach and it's unfair?

Thanks in advance dherbs crew.

Peace!!!
   
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 12:23:11 AM »

What lesson is to be learned from many repeated occurrences of dessertion by those you love and by those that supposedly love you?

I just wonder if you just can't hold on to things that don't last forever or you don't deserve the relationship or what?


Also what is the healthiest, sanest, bestest way to heal from a broken shattered or just heavy and swollen heart due to longing and lonliness and feeling like your love is just out of reach and it's unfair?
   

are you feeling as if you don't deserve them? (re: second bolded sentence) are you expecting them to leave due to the previous situations?

i'm not sure of what approach you could use to heal longing and loneliness. possibly work on loving yourself even more? hmmm...have you checked out the love manual? there may be some healing words in there. or there might be something in the articles section regarding heart issues.

just felt like sharing what i can...
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 12:36:43 AM »

GO watch some Skrippers    jk I wish I knew the answer man.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 01:41:30 AM »

Being lonely. Lol, that's a feeling I like to think I have more or less overcome. o_o

I just reafirrm to myself how amazing I am and the amount of power I possess.

...Come on now, people tell me I'm amazing all the time. My arrogance is not without foundation. XD
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 09:45:25 AM »

What I have learned is that love does not conform to our expectations of its outcome.  If you can understand that everything that happens in your life experience is ultimately for your greater good.  Repeated experiences are the universe's way of trying to get your attention to the areas in your own life that you need to work on.  The love that you seek is truly there even if it doesn't look the way you think it should. 

Through my own experiences, I have discovered that the intimate connection with another that I was desperately searching for was always there.  However, I couldn't see it for a long time because I falsely believed that it should look a certain way.  May best male friend is a man I lived with and used to be engaged to over a decade ago.  If someone had told me 18 years ago when I met him that he would be like a brother to me and how much more fulfillment I would find in our friendship than I did in our relationship, I would have never believed them.  But it is true.

As a child, I always wished I had a big brother, but I was born into a family of two girls and have an older sister.  What I realized is that I have actually created that thing that I longed for as a child.  He is as much my brother as she is my sister.  In fact, he is one of three.

My point is that change in our lives is the one thing that we can be assured of.  Just because a relationship changes does not mean that's a negative thing.  All of our relationships change as we grow and change.  Some change in ways we like, some don't.  But at the end of the day, if we can change our perspective of those closest to us, we will see that the love is still there.  The only thing that changes is how the love is expressed.

I hope this brings you some peace.
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2010, 10:47:52 AM »

Interesting points fam.

No I don't expect it. but I suppose that a part of me could be expecting it. I of course expect it to go on and on and if it ends let it end for a reason where I can easily let go....


And maybe I should change my perspective. I always thought I should be specific in what I wanted that it may be granted to me. Which it has most of the time though I never want to be abandoned.
I am never alone in the sense that I have my angels and guides and things of that nature but that ain't the same in the slightest.

I would say I should probably check out this love manual. Good idea!!!

Thanks guys!!!
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 03:43:36 PM »

Interesting points fam.

I would say I should probably check out this love manual. Good idea!!!

Thanks guys!!!

you're welcome. but you know full well that i'm a woman! lol and i'm pretty sure beloved is as well.

just sayin'

and yes, you should get the love manual. i have it and i find it helpful...
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2010, 04:30:07 PM »

What lesson is to be learned from many repeated occurrences of dessertion by those you love and by those that supposedly love you?
Yea they might keep in touch once every blue moon but they always end up just out of reach or just plain gone.
And it's not like the relationships end foul. Mostly everything is really amazing for both parties from what is observed.

I just wonder if you just can't hold on to things that don't last forever or you don't deserve the relationship or what?

Also what is the healthiest, sanest, bestest way to heal from a broken shattered or just heavy and swollen heart due to longing and lonliness and feeling like your love is just out of reach and it's unfair?

Thanks in advance dherbs crew.

Peace!!!
   

Keep your head up my friend....

Realize there is a season for everyone and everything...Some relationships just are not meant to last forever (for good reason a lot of the time, despite what we feel at the moment it happens). Especially if there is this type of feeling/vibe involved that I pick up from your post.

When you say desertion, I'm wondering does that mean a person is in/out of your life, when they claim otherwise as far as how they feel? I think people throw that word "love" around very loosely, so what I usually do is watch their actions, deep down we really know. I know in previous experience I have, even when a person said otherwise.

Look within to find out what areas of love you are required to work on to move to that next level, without feeling that another has to fill it, that way, when they do not come through, you know you are still taken care of, because love is within us no matter what or no matter WHO is there in our lives. Love is abundant!

Also, ask your guides and angels to help you understand the lesson involved...ask for guidance...if they give you answers of kindness and love for growth, then you can trust that. If you get answers that keep you in a state of worry, fear, negativity, sadness, etc, then you know this is not from a higher evolved being.

Realize too that you DESERVE genuine love, not someone who will play around with your feelings and mislead you....and they do not deserve you either if that's what they are doing.

In terms of healing the art, the best advice I could give right now is meditating, releasing things from the heart that keep you in a certain negative state (release situations, people, and ideas).

Yes, I would recommend the Love Manual as well. Another book that I like is Soul Love by Sanaya Roman. Also, look into heart meditations. Just decide what things you want removed from your heart and consciously remove them with breathing exercises. Another one is maybe for like 15-20 minutes per day, visualize and inhale white light and see the heart space expanding with this light, then exhale it throughout the body....with intention (of filling your spirit and body with the love that is available for the taking). You'll be walking on cloud 9  Smiley All about the energy and intention behind it. Also meditate with some pink and green crystals to work on all aspects of the heart. On www.yourenergywellness.com Kelarius posts tons of exercises and videos--for men AND women. Last month we focused on "Heart Consciousness" and this month the focus is on "Heart Expansion". It's $29.99 per month but well worth it. I don't mind at all telling people about a service that has been beneficial to me personally. In fact, I'm about to do an hour long set right now! The exercises from last month are still up should you decide to join at some point.

I can imagine where you are coming from if I am reading your post correctly. Everything will work out!


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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2010, 12:29:58 AM »

Interesting points fam.

I would say I should probably check out this love manual. Good idea!!!

Thanks guys!!!

you're welcome. but you know full well that i'm a woman! lol and i'm pretty sure beloved is as well.

just sayin'

and yes, you should get the love manual. i have it and i find it helpful...

correction!!! Thank you fellow dherbs luminaries!!!
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2010, 12:47:52 AM »

Thank you With Purpose!!!
It's funny... Now that you mention it, these folks never really explicitly say I love you. I just feel that they do because we vibe easy and they are taking care of me, being sensitive to me, listening to me, spending time with me, laughing with me and things like that... like they do love me. So I just assume that we love eachother...
I don't suppose that is totally fair because although I have my differences with quite a few people, I vibe pretty easy with the majority I come across.

Also for clarity's sake. I was reffering to a few people.
Some leave forever though most Of whom I refer to drift in and out.

It might just be that I am being too clingy... As a water sign it may be a possesive quality expressing itself when I throw my mini temper tantrums (not really lol) over someone leaving me. Especially when they don't say goodbye!!! It really hurts when they don't say good bye...

As far as kelarius goes I listened to all of her radio broadcasts but I have never paid for a session.
I always wanted to try the theata DNA healing!!!
I did the galactic buddah medi and a few others when she first dropped those jewels.


Anyways, I guess I just expect to have someone who stays with me till the end instead of just drifiting in and out.
Maybe later on in life?
I understand most are trying to get they life together so it makes sense for them to have to travel or get preoccupied at work.

As far as playing games goes...
I just have too many broken hearted stories to tell.
I would blow a glass heart and present to someone and they would just shatter it. No matter it precious value. I couldn't understand and it took me a while to relax as well. It's a lot of manipulative people out there. I was taken advantage of due to my naivety. So what I did was close off my heart so k wouldn't have to feel. Then I stopped felling love but i didn't stop feeling depressed and lonely and stuff. So it was a loose loose situation. Not my wiser choice.

Now I try to be open and give folks a chance to allow folks in and not let someone elses bs ruin my relationship with everyone income across which is a mother huge obstacle in my relationships because I will assume people are all the same (which is halfway true in certain cases with certain people who you catch that "vibe" from...)

so it's a challenge avoiding these manipulative folks. I don't wanna be naive and manipulated  but I don't wanna be cold and closed off either.

Thaanks again ladies!!! 
     
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2010, 12:50:51 AM »

GO watch some Skrippers    jk I wish I knew the answer man.

lol that's the last thing I wanna do!
Lol smh!!!
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2010, 12:55:02 AM »

Being lonely. Lol, that's a feeling I like to think I have more or less overcome. o_o

I just reafirrm to myself how amazing I am and the amount of power I possess.

...Come on now, people tell me I'm amazing all the time. My arrogance is not without foundation. XD

that's great man!
For sake of clarity... when I say lonely. I really mean that I don't have a person on the scene with me that I can say... This my beloved. We've been to tether for a while.... Or something like that. You feel me?
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2010, 02:24:44 PM »

Maybe it's nothing personal? Some people just do not know how to handle a certain kind of friendship or relationship and when it gets too heavy, they are ready to bounce. Like they may want one thing, but are not sure how to handle that close kind of bond or friendship. People are just made up like that and have a lot of issues they must work through. A lot of times too, it's just our REACTION to what people do.

From experience, I would suggest working on the heart centers & light bodies and work to strengthen them all. That way it will be difficult for things like this to affect you. Believe me my friend, I got some stories I could tell (and will one day) but since I've been working on these areas, it's like an armor or shield on the energetic,emotional, and spiritual level that I have developed. Not hard shelled but just way harder to affect me on different levels. Then do about 1 hour of exercise of some type to release the OLD energy and to let the new energies in.

Also think about the expectation part. Most of the time, people just cannot and will not live up to our expectations for various reasons. You will get what you want from love one day.  Smiley Us Scorpios tend to love and desire very hard (Motto: I DESIRE LOL), so I know what you mean. All or nothing at times. Just have to find that balance within. Just continue to ask for the answers and be open, they will come. Do you journal at all?

Oh yeah, that Galactic Buddha Meditation ain't no joke! I plan to do that one tomorrow. After the first time I did it, my head hurt a bit in a funny kind of way, mainly the top and front. Well the Theta DNA is cool I plan to take classes to learn it this spring....but the site is more like having many different personal sessions on demand LOL but takes effort, dedication, and consistency to make the changes. You also get a 30 minute session per month with her and she does a monthly webinar.

You will be find though....you're a very smart and strong young man! Just know that you're on the path you need to be on right now at this moment and everything is working out in your favor!  Wink
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2010, 03:08:55 PM »

Ahhhh. I forgot you too are a Scorpio!!!
No wonder lol. 
I stopped journaling for a while but picked it back up recently.
It is a sure way to let certain things go.
I also stopped exercising as much as I used too mostly due to my class being over for the season. 
You have given me some more great advice and I am thankful and eased to know you feel me!
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