anti social

[essenceofgenius]

i ahve changed in mindset and all of a sudden i dont like baing around stagnant people. i dont even like talking to broke people. i dont like hanging around afrocentrist and religous fanatics.

ive become stand offish. i dont even like talking to people who have 9 to fives

[Dream]

LOL I am like that to a certain extent I just don't like being around people who give that feeling in a way that thier only in my life to slow me down. My mom use to come in my room all the time and say why are you so anti-social why do you stay in your room most of the time and I'll say I don't know but I knew it was because I just wasn't on the same level as other people around me so I just kept to myself or hung out with people who were doing something with themselves.

[360 overstand]

I don't like the term "anti-social", because I'm not "anti" social , it's more like people who talk about sports , or how bad their life is, or crack jokes at others expense, while buzzed on liquor or weed or whatever else. These people just drain me, and bore me honestly. I have more fun by myself than with many people. I'm sociable, I can strike a conversation about anything with anyone it's just that most of the time I'd rather not spend the time doing that. The libra rising and capricorn sun is a doosie because I have a poker face and people look at me as un approachable but when someone does approach Im grinning ear to ear and we both end up laughing at something and having a lively convo.

So don't think of yourself as "anti" social or even that anything is wrong with you or anyone else.

[Ezkeel]

I always have been that way!!
I only get along with certain people
I think that depth is the attraction for me.

[living arts]

i ahve changed in mindset and all of a sudden i dont like baing around stagnant people. i dont even like talking to broke people. i dont like hanging around afrocentrist and religous fanatics.

ive become stand offish. i dont even like talking to people who have 9 to fives

how about seeing it as being selective? it's your world, you should be allowed to decide who plays a part in it and who won't.

[Lady Ashayt]

When I was in high school, I was very observant and quiet.  People would call me stuck up, but a hairdresser who knew me (I would talk the ears off friends and family) put it the best and I think the quote applies here as well....

 "Baby your not stuck up, you're just selective in who you talk to"

[kadydid]

I have been to myself all of my life. Now that I have gotten older I don't have many friends. Since I have begun to look at life differently I don't have much in common with a lot of people. I am even this way with family members.

So I think I am anti social as well. Look at it as a good thing. You have more time to reflect on life and make better choices and decisions.

[Nefertari]

I was told that a lot growing up, until I got pissed off at hearing it, and started correcting people, and letting them know that calling me that would make me one step closer to a friggin sociopath, so maybe the term they are looking for is asocial. And I don't consider myself either, I'm just selective in who I choose to speak to, and they failed the selection process

[KrayolaVision]

I start to feel bored and/or annoyed and/or drained being around the wrong kinda people too long. 

I NEVER get bored by myself. everything feels fun and interesting like im still a kid.

 :DI wake up feeling like I just won the lottery but then someone comes at me with the bullshit.   

i like how "SELECTIVE" sounds, i can definitly dig that ! 

[360 overstand]

I start to feel bored and/or annoyed and/or drained being around the wrong kinda people too long. 

I NEVER get bored by myself. everything feels fun and interesting like im still a kid.

 :DI wake up feeling like I just won the lottery but then someone comes at me with the bullshit.   

i like how "SELECTIVE" sounds, i can definitly dig that ! 

Couldnt agree more, I in a great mood until someone does something to set it off.

[El Negro]

I agree with everybody, just because a nigga doesn't want to small talk doesn't mean they are antisocial. I am also very introverted and like time to myself to reflect and grow, but I have to be around people who fit my energy and are an asset to my life in some way, or I WON'T kick it with them for longer then 5 seconds. I use to sit around and talk to people about nothing to be nice, but FUCK THAT.

[MATHYOU]

eye hang out with certain people who are completely draining and eye don't like being around particularily......for free...

cuz if Bath-you cakes comes through occasionally its gonna keep them out of trouble and bring sum light to they life

eye got deals with certain girls where eye will occasionally have a sleepover(a sleepover where Math you gets no booty and doesn't even want it even if she threw it at him) at their house as long they keep the 85er and 10 percenter dick outside of they pussy....it can be fun at times...its fun when the booty call guys call up(85er and 10percenter) and she hands the phone to me and om like "you want sum pussy son but are you gonna stay with her for life...yes or no its a simple question"....they usually get irate and say sum shit like "she a grown ass woman"....

also being a big fan of Don Juan Matus he talks about the Petty Tormentor and how it is ultimately a blessing to have these energy draining people in your life because it forces you to either step up your fuckin game or throw in the towel and join up with the P-T

when DOn Juan was younger he was basically tricked into entering a slave labor camp....long story short he tried to escape the over-seer shot him...just before the shot went off Nagual Julian was thinking about having a student...long story short Julian nursed Don Juan back to health and then sent Don Juan back to the very same slave labor camp to face his petty tormentor....long story short the very same overseer that shot Don Juan got trampled by sum horses in a stall....LOL

in closing take this excerpt

Years before, I had been both very moved and very confused by don Juan's tremendous dedication to helping me. I could not imagine why he should show me such kindness. It was evident that he did not need me in any way in his life. He was obviously not investing in me. But I had learned, through life's painful experiences, that nothing was free; and being unable to foresee what don Juan's reward would be made me tremendously uneasy.

One day I asked don Juan point-blank, in a very cynical tone, what he was getting out of our association. I said that I had not been able to guess. "Nothing you would understand," he replied. His answer annoyed me. Belligerently I told him I was not stupid, and he could at least try to explain it to me.

"Well, let me just say that, although you could understand it, you are certainly not going to like it," he said with the smile he always had when he was setting me up. "You see, I really want to spare you." I was hooked, and I insisted that he tell me what he meant.

"Are you sure you want to hear the truth?" he asked, knowing I could never say no, even if my life depended on it.

"Of course I want to hear whatever it is you're dangling in front of me," I said cuttingly. He started to laugh as if at a big joke; the more he laughed, the greater my annoyance. "I don't see what's so funny," I said. "Sometimes the underlying truth shouldn't be tampered with," he said. "The underlying truth here is like a block at the bottom of a big pile of things, a cornerstone. If we take a hard look at the bottom block, we might not like the results. I prefer to avoid that."

He laughed again. His eyes, shining with mischievousness, seemed to invite me to pursue the subject further. And I insisted again that I had to know what he was talking about. I tried to sound calm but persistent.

"Well, if that is what you want," he said with the air of one who had been overwhelmed by the request. "First of all, I'd like to say that everything I do for you is free. You don't have to pay for it. As you know, I've been impeccab1e with you. And as you also know, my impeccability with you is not an investment. I am not grooming you to take care of me when I am too feeble to look after myself. But I do get something of incalculable value out of our association, a sort of reward for dealing impeccably with that bottom block I've mentioned. And what I get is the very thing you are perhaps not going to understand or like." He stopped and peered at me, with a devilish glint in his eyes.

"Tell me about it, don Juan!" I exclaimed, irritated with his delaying tactics. "I want you to bear in mind that I am telling you at your insistence," he said, still smiling. He paused again. By then I was fuming. "If you judge me by my actions with you," he said, "you would have to admit that I have been a paragon of patience and consistency. But what you don't know is that to accomplish this I have had to fight for impeccability as I have never fought before. In order to spend time with you, I have had to transform myself daily, restraining myself with the most excruciating effort."

Don Juan had been right. I did not like what he said. I tried not to lose face and made a sarcastic comeback. "I'm not that bad, don Juan," I said. My voice sounded surprisingly unnatural to me. "Oh, yes, you are that bad," he said with a serious expression. "You are petty, wasteful, opinionated, coercive, short-tempered, conceited. You are morose, ponderous, and ungrateful. You have an inexhaustible capacity for self-indulgence. And worst of all, you have an exalted idea of yourself, with nothing whatever to back it up.

"I could sincerely say that your mere presence makes me feel like vomiting." I wanted to get angry. I wanted to protest, to complain that he had no right to talk to me that way, but I could not utter a single word. I was crushed. I felt numb.

My expression, upon hearing the bottom truth, must have been something, for don Juan broke into such gales of laughter I thought he was going to choke. "I told you you were not going to like it or understand it," he said. "Warriors' reasons are very simple, but their finesse is extreme. It is a rare opportunity for a warrior to be given a genuine chance to be impeccable in spite of his basic feelings. You gave me such a unique chance. The act of giving freely and impeccably rejuvenates me and renews my wonder. What I get from our association is indeed of incalculable value to me. I am in your debt."

[Goddyssey]

Feeling that response MATHYOU. Truly. Reminds me of an old Daily OM that I keep at the forefront as a frequent reminder. I don't know if it's been posted on the board before...if so a reminder couldn't hurt:

The Upside of Irritation

Things That Annoy Us

There are many stories of spiritual masters embracing the presence of an annoying student in their community. There is even one story that documents a teacher paying an irritating person to live among his students. From an everyday perspective, this is difficult to comprehend. We generally work hard to avoid people and things that we find annoying so they don’t bother us.

From a deeper spiritual perspective, however, irritation can be an important teacher and indicator that we are making progress on our path. Being able to remain centered and awake even when we feel uncomfortable is much more impressive than doing so in an environment where everything is to our liking. No matter how good we are at controlling our circumstances, there will always be factors and people that we cannot control. How we respond to these experiences to a great degree determines the quality of our lives. The goal of spiritual development is not to learn to control our environment—which is more of an ego-driven desire. And while having some measure of control over our external reality is important, it is when we are confronted with a person or situation that irritates us and we can choose not to react that we know have made progress spiritually. It is when we have mastered our internal reality that we will have become the masters of our lives.

The more we try to eliminate annoyances, instead of learning to handle them gracefully, the further we get from developing the qualities that come with spiritual growth, such as patience, tolerance, and acceptance. It is often in the presence of people and experiences we find annoying that we have an opportunity to develop these qualities. Fortunately for most of us, our lives offer an abundance of opportunities to practice and cultivate these traits.

[living arts]

"I told you you were not going to like it or understand it," he said. "Warriors' reasons are very simple, but their finesse is extreme. It is a rare opportunity for a warrior to be given a genuine chance to be impeccable in spite of his basic feelings. You gave me such a unique chance. The act of giving freely and impeccably rejuvenates me and renews my wonder. What I get from our association is indeed of incalculable value to me. I am in your debt."

wow. that's a perspective that i hadn't seriously considered. thanks for sharing this.

The more we try to eliminate annoyances, instead of learning to handle them gracefully, the further we get from developing the qualities that come with spiritual growth, such as patience, tolerance, and acceptance. It is often in the presence of people and experiences we find annoying that we have an opportunity to develop these qualities. Fortunately for most of us, our lives offer an abundance of opportunities to practice and cultivate these traits.

i'll keep this in mind when faced with difficult situations and people.

[MATHYOU]

my pleasure living arts and Goddyssey

just to throw another angle on it

it would be safest to just hang out only with people who got knowledge of self and are not savage

if one is going to get magnetized into a disfunctional lifestyle by hanging out with a certain person then one had better not hang out with that person and wait until one is stronger...

be carefull everyone


The Sages of old were profound
and knew the ways of subtlety and discernment.
Their wisdom is beyond our comprehension.
Because their knowledge was so far superior
I can only give a poor description.

They were careful
as someone crossing a frozen stream in winter.
Alert as if surrounded on all sides by the enemy.
Courteous as a guest.
Fluid as melting ice.
Whole as an uncarved block of wood.
Receptive as a valley.
Turbid as muddied water.

Who can be still
until their mud settles
and the water is cleared by itself?
Can you remain tranquil until right action occurs by itself?